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General Category => Process Lasso => Topic started by: majoMo on July 05, 2011, 01:36:30 PM

Title: FortKnox Personal Firewall Processes
Post by: majoMo on July 05, 2011, 01:36:30 PM
After installed FortKnox Firewall in Win XP, I noticed that Proc. Lasso is unable to show their own processes (FortKnox.exe and FortKnoxGUI.exe).

Any feedback apreciated. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: FortKnox Personal Firewall Processes
Post by: Jude on July 05, 2011, 06:57:26 PM
Me thinks maybe its there under a different name?  8)

Jude
Title: Re: FortKnox Personal Firewall Processes
Post by: Jude on July 05, 2011, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: majoMo on July 05, 2011, 01:36:30 PM
After installed FortKnox Firewall in Win XP, I noticed that Proc. Lasso is unable to show their own processes (FortKnox.exe and FortKnoxGUI.exe).

Any feedback apreciated. Thanks in advance.

Did you try bringing up your task manager?

Jude
Title: Re: FortKnox Personal Firewall Processes
Post by: hanemach_gt on July 06, 2011, 05:35:48 AM
I had to deal with the same problem with Norton Internet Security. Its processes are simply elevated processes or either protected processes. Even starting PL with the highest rights does not give anything (as of now of course), but you can use Command Prompt's tasklist command to show entire list of processes (of course, running Command Prompt as Administrator!).
Title: Re: FortKnox Personal Firewall Processes
Post by: Jeremy Collake on July 06, 2011, 07:27:31 AM
Process Lasso ignores 'protected' processes that it doesn't have access to. This is because many are security products that start 'triggering' when anything dares take a look at them. I have been working on better handling this and hope to have it done sometime in the near future. Remember, Process Lasso was less designed to be a Task Manager than an optimization and automation utility. Therefore you can see why skipping processes it can't do anything to seemed like a good idea at the time ;)

Of course, there is the more simple possibility my forum guys mentioned -- that you simply need to run Process Lasso with elevated rights. I imagine you already tried this though.
Title: Re: FortKnox Personal Firewall Processes
Post by: majoMo on July 07, 2011, 12:47:22 PM
I'm clarified now. Thanks to all posters for their notes.

BTW, some easy way to list protected/elevated processes? It seems the Command Prompt's tasklist command suggested by michal.hanebach doesn't give this info.

;)
Title: Re: FortKnox Personal Firewall Processes
Post by: hanemach_gt on July 07, 2011, 03:32:41 PM
majoMo,

make sure you run it (Command Prompt) by right-click -> Run as Administrator.

It works fine for me; I have disabled UAC, maybe that's the cause if you did it as I said.
If it helps, here is batch code to be pasted into Notepad and saved as *.bat or *.cmd file (it will let you know if you haven't run it as Administrator):

@echo off
call:IsRunWithElevatedRights||(
echo.
echo  Make sure you run it by right-click -^> Run as Administrator.
echo.
pause
exit
)
echo.
tasklist
echo.
pause
goto eof
:IsRunWithElevatedRights
reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WBEM" /v "" /d "" /f>nul 2>&1||exit/b1
exit/b0
Title: Re: FortKnox Personal Firewall Processes
Post by: majoMo on July 07, 2011, 05:34:01 PM
michal.hanebach,

Much appreciated your feedback and... patience.

In fact I didn't express well (in english, not in my thougth...) and I'm sorry for that.   :-[

When used the tasklist command I searched for a parameter that list protected/elevated processes only. And I don't find it! There are some simple command/tool that list that?

8)
Title: Re: FortKnox Personal Firewall Processes
Post by: hanemach_gt on July 07, 2011, 05:44:50 PM
AFAIK tasklist has not any (documented) switches that would solve your problem.
I don't think there's exact utility to show only protected processes, at least I don't know such.
Thank you for clarifying me, I thought there was a problem listing entire process list, not only protected.
Title: Re: FortKnox Personal Firewall Processes
Post by: Jeremy Collake on July 08, 2011, 07:44:28 AM
Michal is right, never heard of anyone even needing such a switch. You can use Process Explorer and sort by 'UAC" column, or perhaps it even has a filter for this, but I do not know.
Title: Re: FortKnox Personal Firewall Processes
Post by: Jeremy Collake on July 08, 2011, 08:09:26 AM
I should also note that I have long planned to add an 'elevated' column, which would then allow you to do a simple sort with Process Lasso. While I never intended it to be a full fledged task manager in the classical sense of the word, these things are too easy to add for them not to be done. I'll try to get to it soon. I'd like to let the current version sit for a bit though, assuming no issues are found. I need to slow down and do some larger development that can't be rushed.