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#1
Process Lasso / Re: Odd CPU % readings
Last post by bertie97 - October 31, 2022, 05:29:42 PM
Thanks JC.
Looks like I should have studied the new PL build more thoroughly!

Will try the different modes  :)
#2
Process Lasso / Re: Odd CPU % readings
Last post by Jeremy Collake - October 31, 2022, 11:04:11 AM
Glad it's better now!

Quote from: bertie97 on October 31, 2022, 10:47:55 AMMaybe % readings from Utility or Time could be a user option

See new menu item 'View / Show CPU Utility % instead of Time %'. My expectation is that almost everyone will prefer CPU Utility %, so it is the default.

Thanks for the feedback! Please don't hesitate to report any other observations.
#3
Process Lasso / Re: Odd CPU % readings
Last post by bertie97 - October 31, 2022, 10:47:55 AM
Thanks for the explanation JC ;)
I have just updated to v12.0.0.13 BETA & the synchronicity of the 2 outputs is much less disturbing  ;D
Feels more 'natural' in relation to what I see/is occurring.

I had had a situation with a driver installer trying to cook my SSD the other day & the only way to stop it was a reboot, so when I saw the suddenly longer-term fills on the taskbar display I thought there might be an issue but couldn't see anything to justify that.

Don't know about the % cap per se, it could be logical & useful to have >100% readings in some circumstances e.g. if the CPU were overclocked & the % max was tied to CPUID. 
Maybe % readings from Utility or Time could be a user option, assuming there are enough people who want that as a feature, (& who wouldn't bombard you with support tickets because they didn't know what they were messing with).  ;)
Anyway thanks again, I'll get back to playing around with this build.  :)


#4
Process Lasso / Re: Odd CPU % readings
Last post by Jeremy Collake - October 31, 2022, 09:58:37 AM
The difference is in CPU Utility % vs CPU Time %. These are different metrics for CPU use. CPU Utility % takes into account frequency scaling, so will tend to be larger than CPU Time %, and can exceed 100%.

This beta series prefers CPU Utility % (configurable), but in that build the CPU Time % was still used by the CPU core graphs.

In the most recent build, v12.0.0.13 BETA, the CPU core graphs also show CPU Utility %. So, they should match up now.

It is still undecided if we'll cap all CPU Utility displays to 100%, to avoid user confusion. Task Manager does that. It is already capped on the historical graph and tray.

If you try the new build, let me know how it goes!
#5
Process Lasso / Odd CPU % readings
Last post by bertie97 - October 29, 2022, 01:47:17 PM
Pl 11.2.0.5 beta x64 W10
As you can see from the screen shot, the activity level bars for the cores are low (the highest CPU thread/proc use shown in the CPU Use % column being <3% on <10 top usage procs).
....But the task bar icon is <100% as is the flag obscuring the CPU core bars.

The task bar icon does alter it's fill level to >0% but I cannot see why it is going over 100% at times...
Bug or am I just lucky?

Anyway thanks JC for the great job you do on PL & PC, couldn't live without them ;)
#6
Process Lasso / Re: Possible to add shortcut +...
Last post by Jeremy Collake - September 21, 2022, 02:16:01 PM
QuotePerhaps "Escape" could return from the filter box -- if focused -- and a second "Escape" closes the window?

Tentatively, as of v11.1.1.5, TAB will now escape the filter boxes. ESCAPE is used as an app global accelerator to close the window, and I will need to evaluate whether a change in behavior is warranted. That global accelerator sits in front of the individual child window message handling, so it also requires more adaptation.

(5) GUI: When filter edit controls have focus, TAB can escape to their respective listview
#7
Process Lasso / Re: Sort in "Persistent CPU Af...
Last post by Aaron44126 - September 21, 2022, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Collake on September 12, 2022, 02:48:30 PMThe only caveat is that sorting the listview will change the rule order, in cases where that matters.

That did not occur to me but I see that as a possible issue.  In my case, I don't really care about the rule order.  But maybe a search/filter box just to help find a rule quickly would help there.  (...Probably a bit trickier to implement than just making the list sortable.)

Quote from: Jeremy Collake on September 12, 2022, 02:48:30 PMGeneral note: Use caution when setting rules on platform host processes, such as Steam.exe. These may be inherited by child processes (games) without specific rules to the contrary.

I did notice this pretty early on.  In most cases, I actually appreciate inherited processes keeping the parent's CPU affinity.  I have a wildcard rule in place for my games folder to apply appropriate affinity to those processes.
#8
General / BurstBench v0.0.0.2 - A bursti...
Last post by Jeremy Collake - September 15, 2022, 09:03:57 AM
BurstBench is a bursting load CPU benchmark tool. It is most useful to compare differences in power plan settings. (prototype pre-release, CLI only)

https://github.com/jeremycollake/burstbench
#9
Process Lasso / Re: Sort in "Persistent CPU Af...
Last post by Jeremy Collake - September 12, 2022, 02:48:30 PM
I certainly see the need! The rule config dialogs become cumbersome when the rule count gets high.

The only caveat is that sorting the listview will change the rule order, in cases where that matters.

I found an existing ticket for this change, and have bumped it up for earlier consideration and likely implementation. I'll reply here when there is news.

General note: Use caution when setting rules on platform host processes, such as Steam.exe. These may be inherited by child processes (games) without specific rules to the contrary.

Thanks for the feedback!


#10
Process Lasso / Re: Possible to add shortcut +...
Last post by Jeremy Collake - September 12, 2022, 02:35:16 PM
Quote... add an "escape" from the filter box back to the respective parent panel? I tried "Escape", but it currently closes the window altogether*.

Yes, and I agree that needs done. I've created a ticket for this.

QuotePerhaps "Escape" could return from the filter box -- if focused -- and a second "Escape" closes the window?

That will be the natural behavior once the filter box properly handles the ESCAPE key.

QuoteSide-note: when the PL window closes with a filter, when the window later reopens, the old filter remains in place. Possible for an option to have it clear upon window close?

QuoteCurrently, when the PL window is pulled up, the focus isn't set into the main "All processes" panel, so the shortcut doesn't work until you click anywhere into the panel.

Tickets also created for these two items.

When there is news on any of these, I'll reply again here.

Thanks for the feedback, as always!